"Yes, if you trust my abilities, I'm happy to apply the enchantment. " What he does not say is that he's still kind of practicing all of this, but Jayce will assist if necessary. That's what this is supposed to be about, after all. Viktor shuffles closer so that he can peer over Jayce's shoulder to get a look at the shield, assessing the damage and nodding in agreement.
Of course, Braerium is what's most relevant to this conversation, and though Viktor isn't as openly thrilled as Jayce, the intensity of his interest is the biggest indicator that he's just as excited about it, even if he wasn't the one to do the smithing.
"There's room for improvement, of course." Which is why Steve is here. "Though if I may ask, why a shield?"
He hopes that the implication is clear--it's not necessarily just about the shield, but rather, the fact that Steve seems interested in only a shield. He hasn't asked for knives, or swords, or anything else like that. Viktor finds that curious in itself.
It's a relief to hear that the two of them think that they can repair and even improve on the shield that Steve's already been using. He knows that it's never going to be able to ricochet around in a perfect trajectory to return to his hands like his own shield would, but he isn't about to complain about that. It's not a failure on the part of either Jayce or Viktor, as vibranium isn't something that can just be recreated like it's nothing.
"I'd appreciate that," Steve says to Viktor with a nod before he takes the new shield that Jayce hands over. Braerium, huh? It's notably lightweight and Steve's eyebrows lift up in surprise as he turns the disc over in his hands, inspecting it. "If you can figure out a way to make sure that it can handle brute force, that would be great."
Otherwise, it's going to take quite an adjustment for him to learn to use it in way that isn't going to just break it apart the first time he tries it out. To use it solely as a shield, rather than as a weapon in its own right. If Jayce's idea for a pack that can hold two shields works, he could shift between them as needed, though.
Then comes Viktor's question, and Steve smiles wryly as he sets the shield down on the closest counter for now. He'll be happy to test it out for them in any way that they want, but doesn't want to accidentally do any harm before they get to that.
"I've always been the most comfortable using one over knives or guns," he explains with a one-armed shrug. "The one I had back home was made of something called vibranium, and I could throw it in such a way that it would hit multiple targets before returning to me. Sometimes a good defense is the best offense."
"It might not be possible to make one with the strength of a full shield and also have the magical properties, which is why having a magic shield and a combat shield could be one approach." Jayce wants to be honest, the way braerium is made up, you can't have both perfectly. But he understands having two shields instead of just one fantastic vibranium one isn't an ideal situation. The point is this is a work in progress, they only started being able to work with the metal. "I'm still working on it though." He doesn't give up easily.
"I can't even tell you what I'd do to use vibranium. It sounds like ... the perfect metal." And of course for someone like him that's a damn miracle. Also Jayce is a rock collector and while vibranium is not a rock (maybe), it still sounds like something he'd want to treasure. "Have you considered learning some magic? A telekinesis spell in combat could help you do something similar."
Jayce is a mage now, something he still can't believe on a daily basis, so despite much of his work being physical, magical takes its place in his heart when he thinks about it. He problem solves. "We actually have an area we can test out the shield."
“Ideally we’ll be able to fortify braerium to provide both physical and magical defense.”
But they aren’t there yet. In the meantime, it seems like all three of them are perfectly fine with this arrangement—Viktor and Jayce developing equipment for Steve to test, and Steve gets a cool toy, and brings his notes back to the workshop. Viktor's in agreement that two shields is overkill, but they've only just started to work with this material. Optimizing it is going to take some time.
Jayce might want to swoon over vibranium, but Viktor is more practical. Yes, it might be nice to have. Yes, he'd probably do quite a lot to get his hands on some, but they all know such a thing isn't possible. The next best thing will be to alter braerium to achieve similar effects. That's something he and Jayce could be good at. When Jayce mentions actually testing it out, Viktor lights up.
"Yes, out back in the alley. If you're amenable, of course."
As both of them work to manage Steve's expectations, he's quick to nod. "I get that I'm going to probably have to switch between the two, at least for now." That's going to be an adjustment, he won't claim otherwise, but he's pretty sure that he'll learn how to manage it for lack of a better option. This is more than he ever could have expected when he first arrived here, so he's not about to look a gift horse in the mouth either. Jayce and Viktor are being more than accommodating.
He nods at the comment about vibranium, because it is the perfect metal and something that's highly sought after back home too. To the point that Wakanda has done a great deal to keep it safely in their hands, rather than allowing people like Ulysses Klaw to get a hold of it.
Though it's the suggestion about magic that really catches his attention, because it's a workable solution that he hadn't ever thought about until now. Realization dawns on him as he stares off for a few moments. "Huh. You know, that isn't a bad idea. I have no experience with magic back home, that was always Wanda's area, so... I just never thought about trying to learn it here, even though I know it's an option." If he could figure out a way to use magic to propel the shield the way that he wants, that would be extremely useful, and he feels a little silly that he's overlooked this for so long.
That's something to file away for later, though. When they explain that they actually have a testing area, he straightens and gives a firm nod, reaching out to grab the prototype shield again. "Of course, that's what I'm here for. Lead the way."
They will keep working on the combination of metals until something comes out perfect. There's no way to rush it, and neither of them are the kind to do that anyway. They like their final drafts to be perfect, that is why they have a lot of testing round slike now first. He does smile when Steve seems surprised at the idea of combining magic with the rest. Jayce always thinks about ways to combine his magic with everything else.
"Telekinesis spells are probably a good way to start so you can direct the shield anywhere you want and then back again. Maybe aerokinesis as a backup to use the wind. Both also can be useful as defensive magic to put up fast shields." Jayce can talk as enthusiastically about magic ideas as he can about anything else. More so, to be honest, because it is a dream come true.
"If you train in the Horizon, it actually makes it faster. Easier. Have Wanda show you a few things, I'm sure she'd like that." Wanda has communicated to him that she was somewhat of the new kid in the Avengers at one point, and trained by them. Maybe she'd love the shoe being on the other foot so she can be the knowledgeable one.
"Okay so what we're going to practice with is throwing spells at the shield and seeing how it is on your end. And then...." Jayce talks as they walk out to the back alley.
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Date: 2022-12-08 06:08 pm (UTC)Of course, Braerium is what's most relevant to this conversation, and though Viktor isn't as openly thrilled as Jayce, the intensity of his interest is the biggest indicator that he's just as excited about it, even if he wasn't the one to do the smithing.
"There's room for improvement, of course." Which is why Steve is here. "Though if I may ask, why a shield?"
He hopes that the implication is clear--it's not necessarily just about the shield, but rather, the fact that Steve seems interested in only a shield. He hasn't asked for knives, or swords, or anything else like that. Viktor finds that curious in itself.
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Date: 2022-12-13 02:28 am (UTC)"I'd appreciate that," Steve says to Viktor with a nod before he takes the new shield that Jayce hands over. Braerium, huh? It's notably lightweight and Steve's eyebrows lift up in surprise as he turns the disc over in his hands, inspecting it. "If you can figure out a way to make sure that it can handle brute force, that would be great."
Otherwise, it's going to take quite an adjustment for him to learn to use it in way that isn't going to just break it apart the first time he tries it out. To use it solely as a shield, rather than as a weapon in its own right. If Jayce's idea for a pack that can hold two shields works, he could shift between them as needed, though.
Then comes Viktor's question, and Steve smiles wryly as he sets the shield down on the closest counter for now. He'll be happy to test it out for them in any way that they want, but doesn't want to accidentally do any harm before they get to that.
"I've always been the most comfortable using one over knives or guns," he explains with a one-armed shrug. "The one I had back home was made of something called vibranium, and I could throw it in such a way that it would hit multiple targets before returning to me. Sometimes a good defense is the best offense."
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Date: 2022-12-17 03:17 am (UTC)"I can't even tell you what I'd do to use vibranium. It sounds like ... the perfect metal." And of course for someone like him that's a damn miracle. Also Jayce is a rock collector and while vibranium is not a rock (maybe), it still sounds like something he'd want to treasure. "Have you considered learning some magic? A telekinesis spell in combat could help you do something similar."
Jayce is a mage now, something he still can't believe on a daily basis, so despite much of his work being physical, magical takes its place in his heart when he thinks about it. He problem solves. "We actually have an area we can test out the shield."
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Date: 2022-12-22 04:30 pm (UTC)But they aren’t there yet. In the meantime, it seems like all three of them are perfectly fine with this arrangement—Viktor and Jayce developing equipment for Steve to test, and Steve gets a cool toy, and brings his notes back to the workshop. Viktor's in agreement that two shields is overkill, but they've only just started to work with this material. Optimizing it is going to take some time.
Jayce might want to swoon over vibranium, but Viktor is more practical. Yes, it might be nice to have. Yes, he'd probably do quite a lot to get his hands on some, but they all know such a thing isn't possible. The next best thing will be to alter braerium to achieve similar effects. That's something he and Jayce could be good at. When Jayce mentions actually testing it out, Viktor lights up.
"Yes, out back in the alley. If you're amenable, of course."
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Date: 2022-12-29 03:20 am (UTC)He nods at the comment about vibranium, because it is the perfect metal and something that's highly sought after back home too. To the point that Wakanda has done a great deal to keep it safely in their hands, rather than allowing people like Ulysses Klaw to get a hold of it.
Though it's the suggestion about magic that really catches his attention, because it's a workable solution that he hadn't ever thought about until now. Realization dawns on him as he stares off for a few moments. "Huh. You know, that isn't a bad idea. I have no experience with magic back home, that was always Wanda's area, so... I just never thought about trying to learn it here, even though I know it's an option." If he could figure out a way to use magic to propel the shield the way that he wants, that would be extremely useful, and he feels a little silly that he's overlooked this for so long.
That's something to file away for later, though. When they explain that they actually have a testing area, he straightens and gives a firm nod, reaching out to grab the prototype shield again. "Of course, that's what I'm here for. Lead the way."
I think we can wrap on this one if it's coolio, practicing was fun, Steve has cool shield!
Date: 2023-01-01 02:13 am (UTC)"Telekinesis spells are probably a good way to start so you can direct the shield anywhere you want and then back again. Maybe aerokinesis as a backup to use the wind. Both also can be useful as defensive magic to put up fast shields." Jayce can talk as enthusiastically about magic ideas as he can about anything else. More so, to be honest, because it is a dream come true.
"If you train in the Horizon, it actually makes it faster. Easier. Have Wanda show you a few things, I'm sure she'd like that." Wanda has communicated to him that she was somewhat of the new kid in the Avengers at one point, and trained by them. Maybe she'd love the shoe being on the other foot so she can be the knowledgeable one.
"Okay so what we're going to practice with is throwing spells at the shield and seeing how it is on your end. And then...." Jayce talks as they walk out to the back alley.